I received a call earlier this week from Bruce Scott, the Chief Pharmacist and Senior VP from Medco. He called to attempt to reassure me that Medco was not trying to prevent patients from getting desiccated thyroid when they issued a "Thyroid Products Shortage" alert to physicians, saying that no desiccated thyroid was available (without first checking on product availability from all manufacturers). That same Medco notice to physicians also included the following statement:
"These medications do not have U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval, and we expect that the FDA will eventually require these products to be approved and may remove any remaining unapproved products from the market."
I took Medco to task online, for speculating about FDA plans regarding desiccated thyroid, when no such actions are public information. At the same time, when I spoke with Bruce Scott, the impression he left with me was that he knew something I didn't know about the FDA's plans for these medications.
All in all, I was not reassured by this call from Medco. Do I still believe that Medco may have reasons -- that do not include helping patients -- to have issued their alarmist notice about natural desiccated thyroid, and recommendation that doctors switch their patients to levothyroxine drugs? Yes. Their timeline of notifying doctors before contacting some manufacturers -- along with their history of "drug switching" for profit -- make it hard to think otherwise.
But could the top pharmacist at one the nation's largest pharmacies -- which is handling millions of prescriptions per year -- know something about what the FDA is planning that we members of the public don't know? You bet he could.
I did some more digging.
We all know that shortages of natural desiccated thyroid drugs -- brand name and generic -- have been building since spring of this year.
And the complete nationwide shortages seemed to snowball when the FDA send an enforcement letter to Time-Cap Labs, a drug manufacturer that was making a generic natural desiccated thyroid, and was subcontracting natural desiccated thyroid production for other drug manufacturers. The FDA basically shut down Time-Cap Labs ability to produce any natural desiccated thyroid with the following section of their letter:
In addition to the CGMP violations discussed above, this inspection also revealed that your firm manufactures and markets unapproved new drugs in violation of Section 301(d) and 505(a) of the Act [21 U.S.C. §§ 331(d) and 355(a)]. Based on the information your firm submitted to FDA's Drug Registration and Listing System and information collected during the inspection of your facility, your firm manufactures the following prescription drugs:
- Thyroid 1/2 gr. (32.5 mg) Tablets
- Thyroid l gr. (65 mg) Tablet s
- Thyroid 2 gr. (130 mg) Tablets
- Thyroid 3 gr. (195 mg) Tablets
The above products are drugs within the meaning of Section 201(g) of the Act, [21 U.S.C. § 321(g)] because they are intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of diseases. Further, they are "new drugs" within the meaning of Section 201(p) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(p)] because they are not generally recognized as safe and effective for their labeled uses. Under Sections 301(d) and 505(a) of the Act [21 U.S.C. §§§ 331(a), (d) and 355(a)] a new drug may not be introduced into or delivered for introduction into interstate commerce unless an FDA-approved application is in effect for the drug. Based on our information, you do not have any FDA-approved applications on file for these drug products.
Additionally, the above products are misbranded because, as prescription drugs, adequate directions cannot be written for them so that a layman can use these products safely for their intended uses. Consequently, their labeling fails to bear adequate directions for use as required under Section 502(f)(1) of the Act [21 U.S.C. § 352(f)(1)] and because they lack required approved applications, they are not exempt from this requirement under 21 CFR § 201.115. The introduction or delivery for introduction into interstate commerce of these products without approved new drug applications violates Section 301(a) and (d) of the Act [21 U.S.C. §§ 331(a) and (d)].
I know it's government gobbledygook legalese, but what the above section says is basically the following:
- According to the FDA, natural desiccated thyroid drugs are not generally recognized as safe and effective
- According to the FDA, natural desiccated thyroid is considered a "new drug"
The bottom line? New drugs must be FDA-approved, and natural desiccated thyroid drugs are not FDA-approved.
Desiccated thyroid drugs were in use in the early 1900s, and already on the market when the government regulatory groups to oversee medications were formed. So they never went through the "new drug application" (NDA) process. The synthetic thyroid drug levothyroxine, however, has gone through the NDA process. Back in 1997, stability and potency problems with levothyroxine drugs like Synthroid caused the FDA to require all levothyroxine drugs, including Synthroid and Levoxyl, to go through the NDA process.
So what does this mean for natural desiccated thyroid? Is the FDA going to shut down production of all natural desiccated thyroid drugs -- not just Time-Cap Labs? Will the FDA require natural desiccated thyroid drugs to go through the new drug application process? And if so, will it be sooner or later?
No one knows the answer. But it's important to understand that in June 2006, the FDA announced a new initiative to remove all unapproved drugs from the market. You can read the Compliance Guide from the FDA, which outlines how the FDA intends to bring all drugs into the approval process. Note that among those unapproved drugs, the highest priority -- basically, the drugs that will targeted first -- will be given to drugs with potential safety concerns, and unapproved drugs that directly compete with an approved drug.
It can be complicated to understand the FDA's position on unapproved drugs, especially when you're dealing with older drugs, like natural thyroid, that were already on the market and in use long before the FDA itself was created. To understand specifically, read the following 2-page summary article, from the summer 2008 Pharmacy Today magazine. The article, titled "FDA initiative aims to remove unapproved drugs from market," explains that all drugs must have FDA approval unless they fall into one of the following categories: "DESI pending, OTC monograph pending, generally recognized as safe and effective (GRASE), or grandfathered."
Generally recognized as safe and effective (GRASE) means that an old drug doesn't require FDA approval because it's generally recognized to be safe and effective based on published scientific literature.
Grandfathered drugs are drugs that entered the market before formation of the FDA, and their composition and labeling have not changed since 1962. Apparently, since most drugs have undergone some formulation change, the FDA believes that very few drugs that claim to be "grandfathered" actually do have that status.
Thyroid patients and physicians have often assumed that desiccated thyroid is either GRASE or grandfathered. But the April 2009 letter to Time-Cap Labs makes it clear: the FDA does not consider desiccated thyroid to be either GRASE or grandfathered.
And, again, according to the FDA's letter to Time-Cap labs, natural desiccated thyroid is considered a 'new drug, which means that at some point, the FDA will require natural desiccated thyroid drugs to go through the new drug application process.
Here is a relevant excerpt from the FDA's own discussion of unapproved drugs:
FDA is not required to, and generally does not intend to, give special notice that a drug product may be subject to enforcement action, unless FDA determines that notice is necessary or appropriate to protect the public health.
The FDA says it has the discretion to allow a drug to remain on the market for a "grace period," especially if removing the product from the market would have an effect on the public health. (This was why, when levothyroxine drugs were forced to go through the new drug application process, they were also allowed to remain on the market.)
In pulling a drug off the market, the FDA, however, considers whether there are "legally marketed products" that can meet the needs of patients taking the drug. And it's no secret that the major endocrinology organizations, including the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists, and the American Thyroid Association, both insist that levothyroxine is the treatment for hypothyroidism, and they specifically do not recommend desiccated thyroid. (It's also no secret that those groups and many of their members are beneficiaries of grants, financial support, and research funding from the makers of levothyroxine drugs. But that's another issue.)
Making the situation even more concerning is the fact that Dr. Sidney Wolfe, editor of the WorstPills.org website, and co-founder -- along with Ralph Nader -- of Public Citizen's Health Research Group, was appointed earlier this year to a four-year term on the FDA's Drug Safety and Risk Management Advisory Committee. The committee's role is to counsel the FDA regarding the safety of certain drugs. Wolfe is a major opponent of natural desiccated thyroid, and while remaining woefully uninformed about the drug -- at one point Wolfe even publicly stated that desiccated thyroid on the market today is from bovine (cow) rather than porcine (pig) thyroid -- he has campaigned against desiccated thyroid. Now he's in a position to help get it taken off the market.
At this point, patients and physicians can only hope that when the FDA decides to take action against natural thyroid -- and I am convinced that this is not a matter of if, but when -- we will be able to mobilize to help protect our rights to a medication that has been on the market for more than a century, and is a more effective treatment than levothyroxine for some hypothyroidism patients.
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Thanks Mary for keeping us informed!
“…patients and physicians can only hope that when the FDA decides to take action against natural thyroid…we will be able to mobilize to help protect our rights to a medication…”
Ok, let’s not hope, let’s get organized and do something. Anyone else on board?
yes, how do we organize? mary, do we need to get a petition started…with short personal testimonies? i will be DEAD without desiccated thyroid extract…no question about it. And I’ve been well since 2004 with it…only need a doc to write the Rx…after years and years of illness and thousands of dollars spent.
I’m so tired of worrying about whether the government is going to let me stay alive and functional.
Aha! Finally, something that backs up my conspiracy theory! The final piece of the puzzle would be to investigate Dr. Sidney Wolfe, and find out who in Big Pharma is paying him off to get dessicated thyroid off the market. This seems so big as to be a multi-pronged attack what with ALI unable to provide raw materials, Armour selling watered down meds, and poor RLC trying furiously to keep up with demand.
Mary, you have the numbers to mobilize thousands . . . if there is someone or some agency we all need to write to to make our voices heard, please let us know!
Help! Switching from Armour, which was making me quite ill, to Nature-Throid has been a nightmare! All pharmicies, including CVS can’t get it, and I almost couldn’t get my Armour refilled. From my experience the reformulated Armour seems stronger, so since I have to have some kind of natural thyroid, I now take less. Even so, I’m so tired, constant stomach upset, joint aches, muscle pain, hair loss, nervous, sinus/allergy symptoms, headaches, etc. I phoned RLC Labs and was told they would begin shipping Nature-Throid Nov. 18! Let’s get organized and make our voices heard by someone who can do something! Our health and lives depend on it! Mary, please inform us as to the most effective approach we can take. We can’t allow the FDA to take if off the market. Nor can we allow the greedy synthetic pill-makers to win!
What a bunch of government fascism. What in the hell do a bunch of low-life, career government bureaucrats know about my health that I don’t? What do they know about MY HEALTH that I don’t? What incentives to do they have for me to feel well that I don’t have in SPADES. The fascists who push these government regulations should be arrested and executed for violation of the civil rights of health care patients. Government has NO RIGHT under the United States Constitution to regulate every minutae of people’s lives like the Communists in control today — both parties — believe it does. It’s time for a citizens’ and patients’ revolt.
This is disgusting. It has been obvious since the start of the “reformulation” problems with Armour that something has been amiss. Yes, this is quite obviously an attack on the lifesaving product that we have all come to depend on. And yes, it is going to require decisive and swift action. Personally, I don’t think there is enough time to do things like gather signatures for petitions. We simply need to come together as a very loud, vocal and serious group. Think demonstrations, lawsuits and the like. Something has to be done and we need to make a Hell of a lot of noise while doing it.
I too am willing to do whatever is nessicary to keep Armour on the market with out it Me and my 7 yr old daughter will NOT have quality of life at all. Dear God what next it would be different IF they had to walk one day in our shoes without Armour
I cannot believe this! surely there is something we can do about this!?!?! what can we do?
Mary? anybody? what exactly can we do about this?
8 years ago I went to my doctor and told him I had hypothyroidism. It runs in my family. He prescribed levothyroxine. I didn’t take it but tried some natural supplements, which made me feel much better. 3 months later when I went in for my blood test, my TSH levels were even higher. So I succumbed and started to take the levothyroxine. It made me so much worse I literally couldn’t get off the couch for 3 months. When I went back to him, I got a script for Armour. I have been taking it for 7 1/2 years now. I am doing fine, but have no idea what I would do if I couldnt’ get it. The government again is stepping in to tell us what is good for us because obviously we can’t figure it out on our own! It is just like with the whole healthcare scandal. They will own us under the legislation. So we need to start writing the drug companies that produce natural thyroid, our congressmen, senators, and band together before they take it off the market permanently.
Is anyone in the situation of having only a few days left of Armour, and no incoming Rx because of the non-distribution (”back order”)of our medicine?
What do we do? …without?
I fear we’ll be laid out on the couch or floor from fatigue and unable to rise for our own cause! What gives here? We cannot give in, concerning our personal well being.
This is probably about correct. I mean, Abbott Labs, the makers of Synthroid, are a very wealthy & powerful company. We know how our government is working these days. Curiously, American Laboratories, Inc., the only North American producer of the active thyroid ingredient used in natural thyroid medications (and a very small company, they say), has been the defendant in a complaint filed by The United States of America, EPA & The City of Nebraska.
Check it out on the U.S.Dept.of Justice website before the review & comment period ends 8/24/09.
http://www.usdoj.gov/enrd/1671.htm
Very Interesting…
I’m afraid that the Feds will start using the “Swine Flu Pandemic” as an excuse to ram Synthroid & Government run medicine down our diseased thyroid throats unless we scream!
Yes, Mary, we will look to you to organize this effort to keep natural thyroid meds available. Let us know what we need to do next. JO
I read our city paper regularly, and have seen nothing about this in it. Has any of this been published in any other newspapers or media? There are a lot of thyroid patients who know about this blog, but I bet there are many more who do not. Maybe this story needs to be out in the mainstream news, TV and radio as well as in a blog.
I think a prominent person(s) who can be spokesperson(s) for this cause should contact a news organization that will be fair and actually report this. Also, there are health watch dog orgaizations with a large antional readership that might be interested in finding out about this.
While I and many might not agree with everything on the FOX Cable new network, they do stive to bring both sides of issues to the table for the public.
I would suggest also suggest that a reputable spokesperson(s) for us thyroid patients also contact John Goodman of the National Center For Policy Analysis. He is sort of a health care policy “watchdog”, if you will.If anyone knows of any other prominent legislators or organizations that can take this matter to the public fourm, please speak up.
Let me get this straight – Armour is no longer any good because Forest Pharmaceuticals ruined it, but you all still want it badly? Why?
Tyler,
Please read the whole story here before making such a judgement. Armour is not the only natural thyroid med., and so long as it is properly formulated, it appears to be the only one some have historically been able to use. In light of this latest reformulation, and other reasons, I personally will be switching to Nature-throid, if/when the raw thyroid material is in in production again. Trust me, if one is unable to use synthetic, it’s a serious issue. JO
We need to get this on news and get the knowledge out there. I feel fortunate to know about these websites, but I know many a thyroid patient who just doesn’t keep up with this and don’t know what’s going on. This is a letter I wrote to the producers of Countdown with Keith Olbermann — I hope they listen!
Dear Mr. Olbermann and Staff,
I am writing to request that you investigate and report on what is happening within the FDA and corruptions behind it involving removal of natural dessicated porcine thyroid medication from the market. There are thousands of thyroid sufferers throughout the United States and the world who rely on the medication in order to function in daily life. Despite claims that synthetic thyroid hormone — levothyroxine, which goes by the brand name of Synthroid — is equal to or better than natural thyroid, the voices of thousands of sufferers online have demonstrated that Synthroid is successful at masking lab results but does nothing to treat symptoms.
I am one of those voices. After being diagnosed, a full two years after lab tests indicated hypothyroidism, I was placed on Synthroid. Although my TSH levels “normalized,” I still had great difficulty getting out of bed, was gaining weight despite controlled diet and exercise, and was losing handfuls of hair — which, as a 21 year old woman with thin hair to begin with was devestating to find bald spots on my head. After finding droves of women with stories similar to mine in communities all over the internet, including Stop the Thyroid Madness (http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/), About! Thyroid (thyroid.about.com) and others I found that many women felt better after switching to natural desecated thyroid, brand named Armour, Naturthoid, Westhroid. I immediately, within 2 weeks, felt better than I had at any time in my college or graduate school career. I was able to function without buckets of caffeine and I finally started losing the weight I incorrectly associated with the freshman fifteen.
Now I, along with thousands of thyroid sufferers are at risk of losing the lives we’ve come to know. Sentencing us to synthetic T4-only levothyroxine will mean that we will no longer be able to fully function. As Mary Shomon reports in this blog post (http://thyroid.about.com/b/2009/08/19/fda-desiccated-thyroid-armour-nature-throid.htm), the FDA is actively working to take dessicated thyroid off the market, and shortages have already begun. The FDA claims that dessicated thyroid is unsafe and therefore does not deserve to be grandfathered into the system, despite its successful use for over a century.
what if we all contact Congressman Ron Paul..he is one congressman supportive of health freedom choices…and he is a medical doctor….he maybe could advise us…who knows if FDA is really threatening our dessicated thyroid but this might be a good time to educate people about the benefits of this medicine…or would it be best to lay low in case by bringing attention to it during backlog we may give government reason to discontinue it ….hmm??
As a UK resident I have taken levothyroxine for 5 years and STILL can’t convince a doctor to prescribe me a natural dessicated drug, such as Nature Throid. The belief here is very much that the natural versions are unregulated, dangerous and patients taking them can suffer ill-effects. My levothyroxine dose has been increased, decreased, increased again as my various blood tests are taken…I have finally found a chemist that can provide me with Nature Throid on a named person basis but nobody will prescribe me! Levothyroxine rules in the UK, I do not know how I can even trial the alternative version and I constantly feel unwell, gaining weight so easily and now my hair is thinning, with patches around my temples that the doc insists is alopecia and not thyroid related – because it’s not thinning all over, but is patchy. I’ve been told so many different things about the natural dessicated drugs that I want to trial them, but equally worried about all the potential dangerous effects of them. Help in the UK please for clarity and alternatives to the synthetics!! On the NHS I have only seen an endocrinologist twice in 5 years, my GP won’t refer me as it’s supposed to be something they are handling, but I hit brick walls and get so frustrated by it all…and I can’t afford to go private, not that it will be a guarantee I will be able to try the natural drugs then even!! Is a Naturapath the answer instead? They can cost a fortune as well, or do I just keep on keeping on??
For the FDA to disrupt people’s endocrine systems and their lives with heavy-handed power grabs is an outrage. If anyone’s heard about Codex Alimentarius, up until today I’d thought of it as a hairy conspiracy theory. Now it appears to be fact.
We must get noisy; really noisy. We must enlist Congressional sympathizers to intercede and halt the FDA’s expansion of its portfolio.
While we’re at it, bypass your insurance company next time natural thyroid is available and STOCK UP. It’s not expensive (or wasn’t, anyway). It’s SO worth it to have a few months’ supply in the medicine cabinet. It gives you breathing room so you can negotiate from a stable position rather than from a crisis situation.
This is so tragic for so many — I have a feeling that I am a patient that would do SO MUCH better on a medication like Armour or Nature-Throid, etc — and yet I haven’t made the switch because of this particular issue. Im afraid that if I make the switch now, that I will only be left scrambling in frustration to find something else that works, and be even MORE disappointed if/when I find out that it makes me feel like ME again. Im currently on a synthroid/cytomel mix — and I honestly feel Im just not a person that can be on Synthroid AT ALL. My levels are “stable” and “normal” but Im STILL exhausted, STILL a time bomb waiting to go off, and STILL losing my hair. Nothing seems stable about that to me.
I really truly hope these companies and the FDA can “get it together” — it is BEYOND pathetic that in THIS country we’re fighting for what is a basic right of ours — freedom. We should be allowed to CHOOSE what medication makes us feel our individual best without being TOLD what is best for us. This is MY body, ILL tell YOU what works for me.
Mary PLEASE let us know what else we can do — I really agree that we NEED to get this into mainstream media — radio, TV, whatever it takes!!!
One of the problems IS the Codex alimentarius. I’ve read somewhat about it. There are powerful people and drug industries that have much to gain by selling drugs that don’t work to people who have no options but to buy those worthless pharmaceuticals—like synthroid. The big Pharma companies have billions of dollars for lobbying, bribing, or whatever you want to call it. The little company that makes dessicated thyroid product is the “David” against the “Goliath” Pharma
a companies, the FDA, and the Codex. Unfortunately, the FDA and the gov’t policy shapers and pharma companies behind the codex, and other entities have one goal: financial gain and having the power to control people’s health.
This is the time to take action to publicize the FDA’s and synthetic thyroid companies’ hidden agendas!!
Thanks Mary for information, I doubt if we would truely have any voice without you.
How do we get to the Endocrinology unit at the FDA to see what is really happening? We need reassurance we can get our dessicated drugs while such a process as approval takes place. I think these drugs should go through the approval process. However, due to the gravity of the situation, I believe we need grants for companies needing this approval. I want to be reassured testing against rogue virus, prions, etc. are happening and that dosage is proven and not only valid but also reliable. I want to be assured I will have what I need and that I would not be considered one of those uncovered chronic disease patients in the “new” health care reform.
Let me tell you what I think is going to happen.
I think a few smart folks will start manufacturing this underground, just for survival sake. In fact I have found the complete process for producing Armour Thyroid. If I can get to it, so can others.
In fact, some folks, I am aware of are learning lab techniques and how to get resources in order to have the tests availabe for themselves.
I am thinking of this for myself. I cannot survive without the dessicated thyroid, porcine or bovine.
For me synthetic is a slow painful death.
What will it take to get our point across?…those of us without a thyroid join hands in a death march on Washington???…all I have to do is take no hormones at all and it would be a matter of a few days or even less and I would be dead.
I have to tell you that I have no faith in established health care. I am in the health care field. I see people slipping through unnoticed constantly. No one cares about this. Each is focusing on number one.
I think I would do whatever I had to do to survive this life, be it illegal or not.
Better yet would be taking existing cells in us personally, adn then designing antigen free thyroid tissue…everyone wants to grow and arm or leg…how about a thyroid gland compatible with our immune system??????
How few care a t all about the thyroid patient…we are usually silly middle aged women, or tubby men with an issue…I know how medical people talk about thyroid patients…
Thanks for your investigation, Mary, I was on the same path — the exact same thing is happening to the combination hormone replacement drugs Estratest, Covaryx, Essian, etc (estrified estrogens/methyltestosterone.) These EEMTs have been in use since before 1962. The FDA pulled approval as of June 2009. It costs a fortune to do all the excessive studies they require, so after exhausting legal avenues and bankrolling quite a few studies, the companies are discontinuing production (those who haven’t yet announced it are citing “shortages.”) It took me a full decade to find the combination of hormones that worked for me, now I and hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of women taking this product are left to cobble together a substitute. No doubt many will start taking DHEA (certainly not regulated!) and using other drugs off-label, which may not be as effective. Besides affecting our well-being, the FDA actions are wasting a tremendous amount of time and money of us and our doctors. The FDA certainly has more important issues they should be attending to such as the enormous percentage of generic drugs our unsuspecting population is consuming which are made in China and India, with little or no FDA supervision to assure good manufacturing processes. Remember the contaminated heparin, and China’s poisonous baby formula?? Foreign generics are why our grocery and discount stores can give away incredibly cheap antibiotics. I agree with other commentors that we need to pressure our politicians. There is no doubt that the FDA actions are related to polictics and business competitors more than safety concerns.
This means that the recent “reformulation” of Armour Thyroid has done us even more of a disservice than we even realized before. NOW they can have the drug removed since it’s been altered! Does anyone know if we will be able to get this type of drug from other countries if the FDA removes it from the market?
Mary:
Is there anyway we could get a petition going to address this issue…and/or site to gather one’s experience using Desiccated Thyroid Drug, such as Armour and/or Nature-Throid vs. synthetic meds being prescribed. Then, use that information to address the naysayers.
Karen
YES! We need to do something! I just got my Armour Thyroid filled and OMG it was has hassle I called all over the place before I found it….I was able to get a three month supply….so hopefully that will hold me until Forest gets on on the ball. I would be devasted without my Armour! Let get a petition or something. Maybe we can write the FDA or call them constantly and leave messages. Would do you guys think??
I just sent this the Huffington Post:
Could you please report on the sudden shortages of “grandfathered” drugs?
The FDA has quietly begun shutting off supplies of hundreds, perhaps thousands of drugs that have been used safely for 50 years or more. I truly believe this action is a result of politics and competition among pharmaceutical firms rather than a valid issue of safety.
Were patients even asked for input and was the effect on us considered??
Rather than contributing to patient safety, the withdrawal of effective drugs will force patients to cobble together alternatives that may not be approved or regulated. Patients will also turn to black market drug suppliers, or drugs manufactured by unregulated factories in countries such as China and India. Many people will not function well without their drugs, and patient and physician time is being consumed by this issue.
Our government actions are forcing our high quality pharmaceutical firms to leave the country for kinder regulatory environments. Another whole industry leaving our shores. In addition, our government bureaucracy is removing all incentives for research and development and production of drugs with low market share. Patient safety is certainly possible with common-sense oversight by the FDA, which seems to be sorely missing.
Please read the links below for an excellent explanation by thyroid activist Mary Shoman, and the article from the Post about generics from India and China. The writing on the wall is clear — US citizens are consuming unregulated, possibly unsafe drugs from overseas, and our government’s actions have resulted in this situation and are driving it to get worse. Ultimately, patient safety is going down the tubes.
http://thyroid.about.com/b/2009/08/19/fda-desiccated-thyroid-armour-nature-throid.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061601295.html
We need to ask the government to halt the withdrawal process NOW. Media attention is essential.
Thank you,
Kathleen House
Cockeysville, MD
WRITE YOUR OWN Congressman and Senators. Hey, this is an issue that could be come public at a time when people would be interested in how our choices are being limited by the health insruance industry. You definitely want to include: the natural thryoid is the only way some people can combat obesity, the natural drug is less expensive, and removing the natural stuff LIMITS A PATIENT’S CHOICES. This could be a real story to explain the need for healt care reform to all those who think their care is fine.
It seems the FDA talks from both sides of their mouth. They’ve “grandfathered” in Ritalin, Concerta, etc. (all which have the active ingredient methylphenidate) while IGNORING disturbing studies which show these drugs have carcinogenic properties (M.D. Anderson Center, Univ of Texas in 2005) and brain-damaging effects (multiple studies from 1986 – 2002) yet still claim the drug is “safe” because “it’s grandfathered in and has been used for over 50 years”. And that’s not the only drug with brain-damaging side effects, but the FDA could care less! Ever wonder why young people (who just happened to have been labeled ADHD) end up with leukemia? And what about the multitude of medications the FDA approves, only to have deadly side effects once we (the public) have taken them? We’re the guinea pigs for BIG PHARMA. The FDA is so full of it, and has become so politicized, they no longer protect the patient but instead protect BIG PHARMA’s profits.
Dear Barb, you state, “Barb says:
Aha! Finally, something that backs up my conspiracy theory! The final piece of the puzzle would be to investigate Dr. Sidney Wolfe, and find out who in Big Pharma is paying him off to get dessicated thyroid off the market. This seems so big as to be a multi-pronged attack what with ALI unable to provide raw materials, Armour selling watered down meds, and poor RLC trying furiously to keep up with demand.
Mary, you have the numbers to mobilize thousands . . . if there is someone or some agency we all need to write to to make our voices heard, please let us know!”
Barb, You have it right-on, I understand that Wolfe is one of the Czars and in favor of the British. Perhaps he does have the backing of big Pharma but he is on the Obama team of CHANGE. I do put out daily organizing info to STOP this entire destruction taking place.
There remains the question of Obama’s Birth certicate, yet under investigation so that he is declared ineligible. If not that, our best hope is the current uprising of the people finally taking their concerns to the “Lamemakers.” We need representatives who respond. Remember, “No Taxation without Representation”
Perhaps Mary can be our leader to challenge our need for natural Thyroid. I’ll help! ! !
Jo,
“Tyler,
Please read the whole story here before making such a judgement. Armour is not the only natural thyroid med., and so long as it is properly formulated, it appears to be the only one some have historically been able to use. In light of this latest reformulation, and other reasons, I personally will be switching to Nature-throid, if/when the raw thyroid material is in in production again. Trust me, if one is unable to use synthetic, it’s a serious issue. JO”
I have read the whole story, and it seems you are kind of not getting my point. The fact is, armour HAS been reformulated, and yet armour is STILL the drug that everyone wants, even though people are now getting bad hypo symptoms and bad test results. It makes no sense.
The fact is, it HAS been reformulated, and now I no longer know how much thyroid I was even getting the last few months. It’s unacceptable. To keep on wanting to have that drug, in the face of this info, doesn’t make sense.
Barbara Jo, glad you agree with my points but your facts are incorrect. Dr. Wolfe was appointed during the Bush administration in Oct. 2008. http://www.fdalawblog.net/fda_law_blog_hyman_phelps/2008/10/public-citizens-sidney-wolfe-joins-fda-advisory-committee.html I really don’t konw what his agenda is, but someone has convinced him that natural thyroid is “bad” and he’s trying to save us LOL! Also, I was born in Hawaii and if you really believe Obama wasn’t, again, your facts are incorrect.
Mary, can you or some of the doctors who know that dessicated thyroid works write letters, send proof or get a face to face appointment with Dr Sidney Wolfe and show him the facts?
Dear Barb,
Thanks for the correction for Dr. Wolfe. So many matters get reported erroneously. The point is he should not be making decisions for our life.
As for the Birth Certificate, that is another issue. what name of names were on his passport(s) and where were the passport(s) issued?
NO POLITICS FOLKS. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL DISCUSSION.
Any further posts referring to Obama birth certificates and bringing up controversial political arguments will be deleted.
Actions we can take now:
* Contact your government representatives regarding this issue.
(This is my next move.)
* Contact high profile reporters to expose this set of circumstances.
(I have contacted John Stossel at ABC news.)
* Hold drug makers, Forrest Labs & RCL and raw product producer, American Laboratories, Inc. accountable.
(I will discontinue purchasing my thyroid med Armour from Forrest Labs.)
*Hold Pharmacies/Insurance Companies accountable.
(I will make certain that Medco is not participating in “drug-switching” practices. And will be participating in any legal action that takes place.)
And Tyler,
I see what you are saying & appreciate your clarity. Yes I agree with you. It is for the reason of Armour’s (Forest Labs.) reformulation & lack of good quality control that I (and many) will be switching to RCL’s Nature-Throid. You are absolutely correct, people should not want to continue Armour thyroid in light of its history, and especially in light of making changes to a medication without informing their customers. Something is absolutely not ethical (if not illegal) about this. And honestly, I’m pissed! But, this shows you how unpleasant Synthetic hormone experiences have been for many. My story is a saga to be sure. And truly, there are more fun things I’d love to be spending my time on.
The other point I am trying to make here is that for those who are unable to use synthetic thyroid, we are in a pretty bad position, left now with only RCL (Nature-throid or Westhroid) as a reasonable choice. Not to mention that there is only one North American supplier of the active ingredient, American Laboratories, Inc. (ALI). Sadly, I have seen information regarding this company which leaves me concerned as well. They have been found to be in violation of some serious Clean Air Act regulations, and have expanded their production capacities without the proper & timely permits. It appears that they also will be increasing exports of their products to the European Union. I’m not sure if it will be their thyroid products necessarily. But, even if it is their other products, I’m guessing that could effect their production for domestic sales??? I have also seen stated that RCL has been rejecting up to 50% of ALI’s raw product due to not being up to RCL’s quality standards for use in their medications. Good for RCL! For this alone, they get my business. And, if their actions improve the production quality of the only supplier, American Laboratories, Inc., then we all win! Even though the increase in sales they have experienced is probably sufficient, I think I’ll write to RCL & encourage their continued high quality standards. Though, it would really disturb me to have only one supplier & only one drug manufacturer.
If the makers and suppliers of natural thyroid meds don’t do a better job, than we will be out of the option of a natural thyroid medication when the FDA steps in. And, it says much that even with poor quality history, that the use of Synthroid was so unacceptable as a treatment, that, yes, patients who have found natural thyroid to be a “better” treatment option are willing to support the continuation of availability of natural thyroid.
Personally, I feel betrayed by Forest Labs, and would like to see legal action & tighter regulation there. They have lost my business. I’d also like to see better production standards from ALI. And, absolutely, I’d like to see that the natural thyroid meds undergo the FDA approval process required of all other drug. (And, why not let’s take a look at salt as a food additive while we’re at it!) But, please, in light of historical usage, just monitor standards while that is done. Being forced to take synthetic is not even a good option for many. I think that is the trauma we are seeing here.
Dawn, I like the suggestion to contact our government representatives and agree with you that Texas Representative Ron Paul is an excellent example of someone who would get behind this issue. He is a Medical Doctor who understands personal freedom of choice. Here’s his website so that we can send him notes now. http://www.house.gov/paul/
OK. Just wrote to Congressman Ron Paul. JO
Yes, all media should be contacted. 60 Minutes, 20/20, Dateline, Oprah, Suzanne Somers, and anyone else you can think of. The more of us who do this, the better. Something is really fishy here and needs to be aired out!
Whoever wanted us all to go back to synthetic T4 really thought this through. By making Armour inferior with their reformulation, they knew we would all just move over to Nature-Throid. So they cut off the source, ALI. I do not expect to be able to refill my Nature-Throid and it is depressing.
By reformulating Armour, it no longer qualifies as the “grandfathered” drug we thought it was, so it would have to get a New Drug Application, which takes times and costs them money. But are you aware that Forest Labs also sells Levothroid, so they still stand to benefit even if Armour is no longer sold?
A very organized campaign was mounted last year to keep estriol on the market when Wyeth tried to get it banned so they could sell more Premarin. Is anyone familiar with how that was done?
I just finished writing to both of my state senators and my US Representative as well as my state representative.
We are the living proof that natural desiccated thyroid is safe and effective. Use material from Mary’s web site or direct them via links to the information.
Google search for your US senators if you don’t know who they are. They all have web sites where you can contact them. I do not suggest selecting the canned subjects offered, I selected Other and wrote “Need your help with the FDA” or “Need your help fighting the FDA.”
Write from your heart and tell your story; then ask them to help you: “Please, Mr./Mrs. , help us save the only medication that gives us relief. What do we need to do to save our natural desiccated thyroid treatment? I invite you to contact me and tell me how to mobilize this army of suffers because a loss of these medications will mean misery for hundreds of thousands of us and I am not willing to let it happen if I can do anything about it!”
After reading the information that Mary provided (thank you Mary), it appears that Forest deliberately reformulated Armour Thyroid. They knew it would require a new drug application. Who are they in cahoots with? I agree with those who would not want to go back to Armour even if they now state that they are going back to the old formulation. Who could trust them?
RCL appears to be in the middle of this. If they can’t get the raw material to make Nature-Throid they would be out of business. Anti-trust laws?
FDA is under the impression that they can take desiccated thyroid off the market at will since Synthroid, which has been approved, is on the market. (other drugs)They are saying Synthroid is an equivalent product. This is not true.
By Armour pulling itself out of the picture, they whole picture becomes more difficult. That’s why I think they were paid to do this.
If the raw material is now unavailable, that’s all she wrote. By all means our congressmen and women should be alerted, and the news, and the President and anyone else you can think of.
The FDA is in bed with Big Pharma.
The next thing is to figure out how to get an equivalent, safe medication from an other country before we’re all in trouble.
“The FDA is in bed with Big Pharma” Julie, I saw your comment, became curious, and found the following:
FDA’s Endo Medication Advisory Committee roster list: http://www.fda.gov/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMeetingMaterials/Drugs/EndocrinologicandMetabolicDrugsAdvisoryCommittee/ucm096416.htm
Kenneth D. Burman, M.D. is the committee chair. Take a look at his resume: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMeetingMaterials/Drugs/EndocrinologicandMetabolicDrugsAdvisoryCommittee/ucm096421.pdf
If you google Dr. Burman you’ll find he has a relationship history with Abbott Labs. It’s written that he’s been their advisor, speaker, and they’ve funded his projects/research. This also has his name on it, was funded by Abbott, and is sponsored on the Health and Human Services web. http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?doc_id=5916
Abbott has been providing “support” to AACE since 1993, and interestingly enough, Forest began this in 2008. What’s motivating Forest to do this now? Are they planning on dumping Armour? It’s curious to me that neither AACE nor ATA mention the Thyroid USP shortage on their websites.
http://www.aace.com/org/cap/capdirectory.php
Finally, the Director of FDA’s Division of Metabolic and Endocrine Drug Products has posted this (she says T4 is the “approved medication” for underactive thyroid and names “Synthroid, Levoxyl, and Levothroid” as examples, there’s no mention of T3, desciated thyroid, or Unithroid, and there is a link to AACE’s website):
http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm107377.htm
Finally, the Director is a grad of Georgetown Univ. Med School—the same place where Dr. Burman is a professor.
I have a huge problem with what looks like a real possible conflict of interest with all of the above. They are all in each other’s pockets and it’s entrenched.
The fact is we have treatment options and these are not being offerred to us unless we’ve done our research and demanded something other than T4. It is unethical and malpractice for us not to be fully informed of our treatment options. This goes against informed consent practices.
I’ve taken Armour thyroid since I was 6 years old- okay, more than 50 years- an had to laugh when a new doctor told me it was “old fashioned” and “dangerous” and tried to switch me to Synthroid. I refused. I demanded my ’script for Armour and they grudgingly gave it to me- this was 10 years ago and I imagine it’s only gotten worse A friend of mine had to start taking thyroid and was NOT given any choice and was also told Armour was “dangerous.” Gee, how am I alive then? Wow!
I refuse to switch- I can’t convert T4 and I believe in natural meds to begin with- I use homepathic remedies for almost everything. If I have to order from overseas, I will. Just let me know if you start a petition, I’ll be DELIGHTED to sign it!
Check out this very recent notice on American Laboratories, Inc., web-site. Shall we remain hopeful?
I agree that everyone should keep on hand a continually replenished 3-month supply of Armour or Naturethroid. While I know that many insurance companies force a month to month supply situation, that doesn’t have to stop you from making an out of pocket purchase to stock up. For one-grain Armour at Walmart, 90 tablets just cost me $33 in blister packs, and bottled tablets are less than $20. I need 3/day, so it’s only enough for 1 month, but it’s fairly cheap to self-stock for hard times like these.
Even if the FDA forces Time-Caps generic thyroid, and possibly Forest’s Armour and RLC Lab’s Naturethroid, to go through the NDA (new drug application) process, that doesn’t necessarily mean an end to dessicated thyroid. It’s true that dessicated thyroid products meet the criteria of competing with an FDA approved drug (Synthroid, Levoxyl and even Cytomel). However, that doesn’t mean that the FDA considers those approved drugs to be an equivalent to natural thyroid products. It also doesn’t mean that all other natural dessicated thyroid products (Armour, Naturethroid/Westhroid) will be removed from the market during any future NDA process. Originally, Armour was grandfathered, but it doesn’t have the same status after formulation changes have occurred. The NDA process is needed to prove that cGMPs are being followed in the manufacturing process of natural dessicated thyroid products, that they are GRASE (generally recognized as safe and effective) for their labeled uses, and that they must also be branded and labeled properly. Time-Caps had cGMP violations, their product was considered a new drug, and it was misbranded. That doesn’t imply that all natural thyroid dessicateds will be given the same warning. As Armour 1) was the original natural dessicated thyroid drug in use for almost 100 years, prior to formation of the FDA and grandfathered, 2) recent changes in formulation were only made to the inactive ingredient ratios, and 3) is not identical in composition to it’s FDA approved competitors Synthroid/Levoxyl/Cytomel, it is my belief that Armour will be allowed to stay on market during any future NDA process. Write to your congressmen, but I wouldn’t worry that all natural dessicated thyroid products will be removed from the market just yet.
For those who dont know about Codex, here is a link. Its well worth watching Ian Cranes workshop all the way thru.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5800206429960925518
I see a wave of panic rising that seems to be based on maybe’s and what if’s. I don’t understand how it is that Armour never had to undergo a new drug application along with all of the other thyroid drugs. I think Forrest missed an opportunity because now the doctors and phramacists can correctly state that it is not an FDA approved drug.
And I don’t see that as “David vs Big Pharma”. Forrest is part of Big Pharma.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to stay aprised of the situation and panic when it might be actually, say, warranted?>
Agreed, no need to panic. But I am calling in reinforcements so that I don’t have to panic. I want my representatives aware of the situation so that they can be informed in advance of the worst possibilities. Then, if we need to mobilize, we are that much further ahead.
DRUGINFO@fda.hhs.gov is the FDA address to write to. PLEASE EVERYONE —FLOOD THIS ADDRESS WITH YOUR CONCERNS!
I received this note: Thank you for writing the Division of Drug Information, in the FDA’s Center for Drug Evaluation and Research.
The FDA is aware of the short supply of Armour Thyroid by the manufacture. There are some strengths still available.
Please see the manufactures website.
http://www.armourthyroid.com/
There are times when a drug product is in short supply, temporarily unavailable or even discontinued. The FDA does not have the authority to require a company to manufacture a drug.
Best Regards,
BD
Division of Drug Information
Center for Drug Evaluation and Research
Food and Drug Administration
I can’t imagine that Forest Labs was willing to lose its market share of Armour by reformulating when it knew the FDA was trying to take desiccated thyroid off the market, unless there was a major payoff involved. I understand that Forest was in trouble with other drugs they market. From what I understand, didn’t the FDA, almost simultaneously with taking Armour off the market, approved one of those other drugs?
I’m fairly new to all this, but a few months ago was diagnosed as hypothyroid (finally!) and after my own research online, I finally convinced my doctor to prescribe Armour. The first month was fantastic! My symptoms (terrible constipation, fatigue, depression, etc.) melted away. I felt life was worth living; I felt hope! Then, I had to refill the prescription and I was confounded by the return of symptoms — my pharmacist had no answer, but my own research came upon this site and I learned about the reformulation/backorder. Then, I lobbied my doctor to change my prescription to Westhroid, which he did… and now my pharmacist tells me they cannot get Westhroid or Nature-throid until mid November.
If that first month of Armour made me feel SO much better, is there any chance that the synthetic drug will also work? I am truly in despair. After years of suffering, to finally glimpse some relief, and now to have it withdrawn again…
Fifty years ago I was put on Armour thyroid. After a few years, my doctor tried me on Synthroid. Disaster! I was put back on Armour and did very well until I moved in 1991, and the first doctor I saw put me on Levoxyl (I refused Synthroid). I was depressed for years. After changing doctors and being put back on Armour, I went back to feeling normal again. At some point, I did research and found that Levoxyl had been recalled several times, once for having veterinary medicine mixed in with it. I’ve been feeling terrible for some time now and decided it must be fibromyalgia. Now that I’ve read comments regarding the problems people have been having with Armour’s reformulation, I tend to think my symptoms are more likely caused by the thyroid medication, especially since one of my values was somewhat out of range at my last checkup. I’ll be discussing this with my doctor at my next visit, which is quite soon. I don’t believe in being an alarmist, but this whole thing is downright scary! I used to think my government would not deliberately do anything to harm me, but now I wonder if this is really true.
To Andrea, “The FDA is in bed with Big Pharma,” and Jill: A doctor told me that the FDA is loaded with doctors who used to work for Big Pharma. (Perhaps some from the insurance industry as well?) Big Pharma and the insurance industry have the most lobbyists in Washington (way, way more than any other organization). Are any alarm bells going off here? Where do you think their loyalty lies? What incentive do they have to be fair and impartial regarding the well-being of patients?
I’m fortunate to have a doctor who is not bamboozled by Big Pharma and their representatives. I’m printing copies of Mary’s articles regarding this whole mess to take with me to my next doctor’s visit.
please join the fight to “save natural thyroid”…
http://www.savenaturalthyroid.com
Everyone is in a frenzy about obtaining dessicated Thryoid meds, but there is no immediate scare at the moment. These meds are available in Canada and the UK and other countries. I’ve been ordering them for years and I reside in the US. If you need more info on where to order, I would be happy to send you a link to the websites.
The *Stop the Thyroid Madness* website has started this frenzy and along with incorrect research, they have put the fear of God into everyone. This should not be happening. I DO NOT recommend this site to anyone !!
If you need meds and are at dire straights, please email me and I will get you that information.
KiwiWombat@gmail.com
I am full of heavy metals that block the conversion of T4 to T3. I need Amour to be ok. I also have MS…without the thyroid helping raise oxygen used in my cells my MS would get worse. Removing Amour thyroid would kill many people and lower our population. It must be survival of the fittest…let the others die? When they say we have a great medical system…to me it is the poor. The FDA is political which can be corrupt…. which doesn’t help people.
@Shasha
About the MS – have you looked into Low Dose Naltrexone as an option (though, from the looks of things – *that* may be the FDA’s next target)
Mary,
There are quite a few celebrities who have hypothyroidism. How many (if any..) of them use natural thyroid products, or better yet, have tried both synthetic AND natural and can definitely say natural is better?
Also, if the FDA takes natural thyroid products out – the alternative will be a complicated compounding of at least Synthroid and Cytomel, probably selenium, maybe a bit of iodine, and T2 and T1 if anybody makes it (doubtful). And that *still* won’t contain all that Armour or any of the other natural products contain.
THAT will drive costs up? Do insurance companies understand that? Does *Obama* understand that? Insurance companies want to lower their costs while either raising ours or keeping them the same. The politicians (supposedly) want to lower costs everywhere (”where’s the magic wand when you need it?”).
Forcing people to use a Synthroid/Cytomel compound/combination will NOT lower costs – for anyone except for a “negative cost” for the stock-holders and whoever else makes money at Abott and whoever makes Cytomel.
I beleive the FDA will remove Desiccated natural thyroid like it has removed quinine sulfate (for muscle cramps) and prescription GUAIFENESIN-only(robitussin) products from the shelf. Unless these manufacturers comply, I suggest to natural thyroid users to stock up while it lasts…or switch to levothyroxine. There’s always synthetic thyrolar which makes me wonder why would Forest put the effort in approving armour thyroid if they have the more expensive thyrolar that is already approved?
I agree with some of the posts that we have power as a group. Your articles reach out to countless users of Armour Thyroid and related medications. Not sure how we could rally in support of Armour and similar medications but I, for one, would join in!!
I hope someone will post this somewhere. What is the original grandfathered formula for Armour Thyroid? In other words, if it is it true that Armour has been made for a hundred years, has the formula actually remained unchanged throughout(until this spring). Or is it possible that the change Forest made was an attempt to revert to a grandfathered formulation.
look up depopulation folks
This scares me to death! I am allergic to synthethic thyroid medications and tried to take them for almost a year leaving me with shortness of breath and feeling like I was having an asthma attack 24 hours a day the entire time I was on them. Tried multiple kinds and every time had that reaction. I had been on Armour for years and never had that problem until my doc suggested I switch and I figured I’d give it a good try. It was one of the scariest things I’ve ever gone through and was so glad to get back on Armour and get rid of the breathing problems. I can only pray that the public can fight and win this battle to keep Armour and similar medications available for patient use.
It’s already hit me– I am able to get 1 bottle of my NaturThroid from my doctor, and then I’m out. What can we do? This is insane.
I am so much healthier for being on the natural product. I never did well on the synthetics, even a synthetic that contained T3s. This can’t happen where they take my health away!!!! NO!
I’m on board! This is unconstitutional.. we all need to stick 2gether, please please see this awesome video and pass on http://www.projectcamelot.org/jane_burgermeister.html. Her name is Jane Burgermeister a young woman living in Vienna, Austria, who, while working as a medical editor, was horrified to learn in early 2009 of the fiasco in which a Baxter International research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria, sent a quantity of human H3N2 viral material to 18 European laboratories. Such a supply of experimental material would have been totally normal – except that in this instance the H3N2 had been somehow contaminated with live H5N1… the far more lethal Avian Flu.
As a medical editor, Jane immediately realized the import of what had happened – and what had nearly happened – and raised the alarm. But no-one in the Austrian media was interested. She then took matters into her own hands and filed legal charges against those who she considered the perpetrators to be.
Very soon after, Jane was dismissed from her job without explanation. Undeterred, she sought support on the internet and continued her campaign. In the months since then she has attracted committed followers – and critics – all over the world. She is not alone in suspecting that there exists a literally diabolical plan which is nothing less than the genocide of potentially hundreds of millions of people worldwide.
we will be organizing a “call out” to the FDA and the ATA – check facebook – stay tuned
A Registered Dietitian and Chemical Engineer with Hashimoto’s comments on the FDA Action:
Defining natural extractions of porcine thyroid hormone as a drug is the heart of the problem with the recent FDA action against producers. Based on their own definition of a “dietary supplement” from their own website, natural porcine thyroid should be under this umbrella, not a “drug”.
“Congress defined the term “dietary supplement” in the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA) of 1994. A dietary supplement is a product taken by mouth that contains a “dietary ingredient” intended to supplement the diet. The “dietary ingredients” in these products may include: vitamins, minerals, herbs or other botanicals, amino acids, and substances such as enzymes, organ tissues, glandulars, and metabolites.”
http://www.fda.gov/Food/DietarySupplements/ConsumerInformation/ucm110417.htm.
Many vitamins, minerals and naturally occurring physiological chemicals are prescribed by physicians in the treatment of medical conditions which create a deficiency or exaggerated need for the substance that is not required by normal healthy people (calcium and vitamin D for osteoporosis, for example). Indeed, doctors write prescriptions for lifestyle changes like physical exercise or physical therapy, counseling and a variety of other therapies that are not drugs. The fact that physicians write prescriptions for something to treat or cure a condition does not require it by law to proceed through the approval process of a substance defined as a drug.
While there is substantial evidence supporting the safety and efficacy of natural porcine thyroid hormone, that is not the issue. The issue is that this action by the FDA is illegal, based on the fact that natural pocine thyroid meets the definition of a dietary supplement. Millions of people suffer from a homone deficiency that can be treated optimally by the economical, safe, non-synthetic, non-drug porcine thyroid extract. This substance is not only “not a new drug” but not a drug at all.
A new law is needed to clearly distinguish between “synthetic chemicals that do not occur naturally in human physiology” that are used to treat or cure disease and those therapies that involve natural substances and normal physiological processes. I am grateful that the FDA requires rigorous testing and approvals for chemicals that are foreign to the human body. Still, repeatedly, they seem to miss dangerous side effects that cause drugs to be pulled from the market. Still, we are better off because of many of our antibiotics and other synthetic drugs that are available today.
However, if we don’t put a stop to this action, the next step will be an attack on herbal supplements like ginger and ginseng, vitamins and minerals and we will no longer be able to access these safe natural substances at will.
It is my belief that the end-users of natural thyroid hormone replacement may have grounds for a class-action law suit against the FDA. This action is evidence of serious conflict-of-interest, unethical behavior in any profession including the government, among key players within the FDA. I would like to think that my primary partners in the Food Safety arena are impartial advocates for consumer safety, but this appears to be impossible with the powerful lobby of drug companies and the limited available pool of impartial drug experts (generally drawn from the drug companies).
It will be very important for patients who find they MUST switch to synthetic thyroid to acquire their medical record prior to and after the change and keep careful personal documentation. Evidence is going to be key to making the right things happen here. A powerful, organized lobby will also be necessary. A very competent and visionary legal staff will also be required. I have great faith that a grass-roots effort can put a stop to the unethical work of the FDA that stands between its central mission to assure the safety and efficacy of foods, drugs and cosmetics for American citizen’s use. We pay their salaries. Let’s make them do their job, properly and ethically.
Mona S. Ottum, R.D.
Well I can no longer get natural thyroid anywhere and I have been put on the syncrap once again. I am so depressed about it but natural thyroid is no longer available where I am.
When I went to pick up my refill for Armour Thyroid yesterday at CVS Pharmacy here in SC, September 24, 2009, I was told, “They no longer make that.” After calling two other pharmacys including Wal-Mart, I was told they are not getting it either.
We should not wait any longer. We should mobilize now and get our own “heavies” from within the medical community to support our position. We should try to hold the FDA accountable to their own definitions of what needs approval. Some forms of dessicated thyroid have not been reformulated and are therefore not new. These should remain available based on 100 years of documented safe use and subsequent study as clear evidence.
I just found this article after reading another from Health Watch. I am a patient that has been on Nature Throid a little over a year after having been prescribed up to 120mg of synthroid for 4 years and found that the synthroid did not work for me at all!!! I was throughly disgusted with our local medical doctors and pharmacists that I had to travel 1500 miles to see an endocrinologist md to tell me that my thyroid was to drastically low, she didn’t know how I was functiong at all! And yet my local doctors wouldn’t put me on anything but synthroid? There was nothing else they would try! All the problems that were developing the dr.s kept telling me, its your thyroid and would increase the synthroid- it wasn’t obvious to them the synthroid WAS NOT WORKING!!! That leads me believe more than anything, the pharmaceutical companies really do control our doctors!
If they discontinue the dessicated thyroid medications, our nations health problems will only increase by the thousands!!!!!! Endocrinology is way to intense to take away drugs that actually do work for patients!
Despite the statement that Thyroid, USP is not an FDA-approved medication, it can STILL be compounded by compounding pharmacists.
Compounding pharmacists can compound with Thyroid, USP powder (the very same source as Forest, RLC, Major, et al) as capsules as long as it has a USP Monograph (which it does, otherwise it would not be called Thyroid, USP).
This means that a patient can continue to receive Thyroid, USP WITHOUT excipients (for those that did not experience a smooth transition from OLD Armour Thyroid to NEW Armour Thyroid). We can compound using vegetable caps, micrcrystalline cellulose filler, probiotic filler, riboflavin filler, or virtually any available powder that the doctor orders or the patient requests.
Same goes for Throlar: We make T4/T3 in fixed combinations all the time. We also can compound long-acting T3 capsule that provide a smoother T3 delivery (no jitters).
So … all is not lost. Maybe it’ll be better than before.
Just some thoughts. While each one is in a panic over their own lack of thyroid, have you ever looked at the larger picture? Anyone on dessicated thyroid is likely to be looking into things other than traditional medicine/big pharma. What is going to happen to this hugely growing segment of the population who are so physically depleted when the Great Pandemic soon arrives? Is that wonderful segment of the population suddenly going to “disappear”?
Is it possible that the “reformulation of Armour”, which removed it from the “grandfathered list”, maybe wasn’t just poorly timed–was it “purposely timed”? Isn’t there really only one provider of all the dessicated thyroid no matter who manufactures it? Is there really a shortage of dessicated thyroid???????
If our government is really interested in “health care” why are they removing the things that make us healthy and insisting upon promoting the “illness industry”?
The only group that I have found that is having any success in fighting on these many types of fronts is the Natural Solutions Foundation and I’m not sure they are even aware of this dilemma. They are very organized and tirelessly working for what really matters–our health. Possibly they would be a good source to assist you in a difficult situation of making your voices heard. I am not affiliated with that organization but do respond when they have a project that they want emails to Congress, etc.
Methinks it is time to act before we can’t.
Mark Burger , Are you saying that natural dessicated porcine thyroid supplement is Thyroid USP ?
I am asking this because I am interested in knowing if the compounding process can in fact simulate all of the compounds/molecules existing in dessicated porcine thyroid. There is a minute amt of triiodothyronine which is the majic bullet. My endocrinol. is a skeptic when prescribing any addtl t3 in a pharmaceutical. So I would need to mention the long-acting aspect if it comes down to that- he is okay with Armour though, with blood levels (ft4,total t3,tsh) But, does not abide by std published “normal” ranges.
Synthroid made me sick for 5 years. Life is much better on Armour now for 14 yrs (though I need more info about the re-formulated Armour).
I am concerned about gel caps as some do not dissolve- I am aware of that issue also being alleged by some docs about Armour tablets; but, it is a valid concern i feel. Do you know if a powdered formulary would be possible?
Thank-you Mark in advance.
I wish to help all to see the big picture of what is going on. Do you want to know what the FDA is really up to? I can only show you what I know and I don’t know everything, but please check out
‘CODEX ALIMENTARIUS’, and really think about it. The FDA is working hard to gain control over all medications, especially those that promote real health, in order to eliminate such medications ie. Armour, that compete with their preferred synthetic drugs ie. levothyroxine, synthroid and levoxyl, that offer no real help. The FDA, from what I gather, wishes to gain control and eliminate medications that would further their adgenda. I again refer to ‘CODEX ALIMENTARIUS.’ I warn you that the information you will find on the matter will disturb you. Here is food for thought! Ask yourself, “Why did the FDA shut down supply of Armor Thyroid, which supplements you with T-1, T-2, T-3, and T-4 hormones right before initiating vaccinations( either mandatory or not) for the H1N1 virus? You may not see the connection until I tell you that the way the H1N1 virus kills is that it attacks your T-cells. I hope I am wrong…
I have located Armour Thyroid medicine at a Canadian pharmacy. Try out of our country, although this is a temperary solution it is a little help. I have stumbled upon a problem. TRY getting your doctor to fax your prescription to Canada. Good luck!
Another thing to consider. I am not sure if it is true, but according to CODEX ALIMENTARIUS, the FDA is working to stop the production and sell of all nutritional supplements, even herbs. The desired date to inact this is set for Dec 31st of ‘09. I am not sure if this date is solid. But I do know that they are going in that direction. I used to use a concentrated herbal syrup called SAFI, before they spread rumors of it containing arsenic and mercury. Now it can’t be found in America, you still can find it overseas. SAFI, is an ancient middle eastern remedy that benefits the entire body.
Beware of the H1N1 vaccine, please research it. Research the Spanish flu of 1917-18. Look on YouTube about CODEX ALIMENTARIUS also. Codex Alimentarius is only a piece of the puzzle of what is going on, but if you know about history, you can see it is about to replay itself, only it’s gonna be a digitally remastered version…if you get my drift.
I’ve been taking Armour for over 30 years and have been told I will have to for the rest of my life. I went to fill the prescription and was told my insurance will only fill 30 DAYS worth now. First time in over 30 years that has happened!! I keep rejecting the offers for SynThyroid. What about Standard Process Lab dessicated Thyroid – could we take enough of that to make it work?
I am really devastated about this, I have been very anxious and depressed, not only about this but this the beginning of government takeover and control of our health and our lives………the same government to whom we are paying our good tax dollars, just so they can use it to destroy us. This is Big Brother and the next thing will be Vitamin C and the other natural supplements. Of course they don’t do a thing about the destructive medicines like vioxx, celebrax, just to mention a few………this is so blatantly obvious what is happening here that this control is governed by the pharmaceutical companies who want to control all meds and leave us no choices. Please I do hope there is an all out strike and all out march to scream our rights and demand re-instatement of our right to take this dessicated thyroid. Please tell me what I can do. I am so desperate, I just paid $90 (!!!) for 50 pills of 60mg and ordered 2 bottles. They should be thrown in jail for taking advantage but whatever I do I cannot return to synthroid…………Sandra
I share the same distrubance about this bureaucratic action, I took artificial Synthroid for several years that gave me only problems. After I switched to Armour I finally started to feel great. There is no way back. I am writing letter to President Obama and copy to all media. Stop this inhuman nonsense! FDA should stop the artificial hormons because they cause HARM! Not the way around!
I have worked with the FDA for 30 years on behalf of pharmacy and so many decisions are in favor of or action take on behalf of the pharmacutical manufacturing industry. There is a relationship that is NOT at arms length and this is an area where Pharma could be making billions with their own less effective meds. Armour should be on the GRASE list and if they go back to the original formulation it would be tough to attack them. Pharma, AKA pharmacutical manufacturers give more money to elected officials than anyone and what we need is campaign finance reform for everything in our lives. Pharma gives big bucks to the med schools as well and the docs are told keep your patients away from natural thyroid. Further, so many FDA employees and legislators who lose an election are then hired by Pharma as a quid pro quo for what was done for Pharma. It is a disgrace.
I started out on Syntheroid when first diagnosed w/ hhypothyroidism a few years ago. I didn’t like it and read about Armour. I have been on Armour for the last 3 years at least and it does a great job. However, when they “reformulated”, I have since noticed a return of some of the old symptoms, i.e. less energy. But I wouldn’t go back to Syntheroid ever–Armour is still superior for me. Looks like we will have little choice here soon though. Protest is the key. How do we do it?
In answer to the earlier post, Armour thyroid was not always manufactured by Forest Labs but by other labs. And it must have been stronger and more effective in the old days, judging by the before and after treatment photos in old medical texts. Why couldn’t another lab revert to the old formulation which is already grandfathered in? Does Forest own the rights to manufacture it under the brand name Armour? They clearly are not manufacturing Armour anymore, but ineffective reformulated new Armour. Could another lab revert to the old tried and true?
I just found that I can’t get Thyrolar 1 for over a month due to UPC regulations. This is very alarming, since I hated taking Synthroid for 6 years with no good results.
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I’m a new user of Armour, refuse to take
anything else. So, where does that leave
me?????
Just hope any of you who voted for the one
who is in there is happy, and unfortunately
this is only the beginning of the suffering
that will take place especially since he sold
us out to BIG PHARMA.
So, to all of you who are suffering and guess
I will be feeling it also since it’s only been
four months since I’ve been on it, let’s all
give a big thank you to those who are responsible
for what lies ahead. This is no longer the America
that I have known all my life.
There’s one Dr. who’s known as a “Maverik” I’m
hoping he can shed some light on the subject of
thyroid. The FDA would like to see him out of here permately.
For now I’m just as discouraged as all of you,
but I’m going to continue to research until I find
something that I’m willing to try no matter how
old fashion it might be. Until then I’ll be praying
for all of us and asking for guidance.
Ummm…I’m pretty scared by all this. Just recently diagnosed with thyroid problems and my DO (integrative) prescribed Armour…learned about the shortage and was told 2 weeks into my script to call and get the pharmacy to order it. The Armour has made me feel like me again. Another doc I used to go to (conventional western medicine) tried to put me on Cytomel…which caused such severe panic attacks and anxiety I about died.
I also have Insulin resistance (severely) and now, Mononucleosis..
I need this stuff and now Big Gov’t wants to take it away from me? Like I said, I’m new to this whole thyroid thing anyway, and Cytomel definitely was waaaay wrong for me and that is supposedly (I was told) the gentlest synthetic out there. I don’t want synthetics. Thus I go to an Integrative DO.
Umm, can I get my Armour from Canada or any other place? I’m serious. Doctor wants me on Armour, been doing great (only on it 2 weeks) and I don’t want to run out.
Help.
I have been on levo, and then went on armour,I felt way more energy on the armour ,however i also had jitters-high anxiety due to drug not being stable and latter too high! I am now uninsured-forced back on levo, due to low cost! I have no energy again havn’t been working-been depressed a lot.Tired of America, and it’s Failed health state!
What the article and no one has mentioned is the source of the naturally dessicated thyroid! It is porcine (PIGS) derived. Therefore this coudl very well be a safety issue. “Swine Flu ” came from pigs and you can track the limited supply of this product to the time when the virus first appeared. While Forrest Labs may indeed be part of “big Pharma” as some point out, they do not have any of the product either. They never produced the raw product before and they are receiving very small amounts of the product that will not allow them to meet demand. Still, the FDA is over meddling with many products right now. I am in the industry as a wholesaler/distributor and it is creating widespread problems and shortages with many products right now. Anwers do not come easy to anyone.
Seems to be conflicting reports on whether or not the source of product is bovine (cows) or porcine (pigs).
I’ve heard otherwise than what this article points out.
Regardless, there may very well be serious control quality problems with this product. Consult your physician, get your levels tested and consider using the synthetic product (Synthroid-Levothyroxine) instead
Hey folks, stop blaming the govt or the big (synthetic) pharma companies. The answer is quite clear. Manufacturers of natural products must follow the same safety testing as that for synthetic products. In this case, blame the folks who make your meds for quality problems. I see complaints on reformulations that made the product worse, but you “trust” these folks?! This is pharma chem 101 – do the right thing and the FDA will approve the product. Get enough folks behind it and it can get “fast-tracked”. But it is NOT up to the synthetic guys to do this. Your beloved natural products mfgs must. BTW, I work (chemist) in the industry and have sheparded these docs through the FDA. Hard but not impossible. And my mom takes Armour thyroid and is lost without it. Maybe you should suggest that Forest hire some consultants who know what they are doing to help with this process????
Stop blaming the government or the pharmacy? Sorry, but that’s where the blame lies. Reformulations aren’t a bad thing, but the points this article makes hit the nail on the head. They are losing money from people not wanting Synthroid and all the other stuff out there (which by the way, does not work for me..none of the synthetics do). The FDA has long overmeddled where it does not belong and freaks out over anything considered “natural” yet they don’t even pay attention to their own drugs (remember Vioxx anyone?) So please don’t put on lovely airs on the FDA and claim they are doing this for our benefit…part of it may be (and if Forest has true quality control issues, that should be remedied with them for sure, but since FOrest hasn’t put out their side of the story, hard to know if it’s true) but just having the FDA seal of approval does not mean anything at all. Do the right thing? What exactly is the “right thing?” After seeing the FDA bully many natural product manufactuers, I’d like to hear what Forest has to say. The FDA isn’t above their bottom line and prejudices and heavy lobbying. Look at the big picture, not just the narrow POV from a government agency.
And I think Rich needs to do some reasearch on swine flu…serious real research.
Rich – wake up and get your information correct. Swine Flu is just the name of the illness – it doesn’t come from pigs.
Rich – again wake up and smell the coffee. I cannot tolerate synthetics, but the Armour worked for me. Not everyone can do synthetics and they are not always the answer.
H1N1 was shoved through for FDA approval – the same formulation that was used with that flu showed up in the 1960 and many people died from the shot. The FDA is run by the federal government and they will do as they are told or no more tax payer funds.
Screw the FDA…just order your Armour from Canada. I have been on Armour for more than 10 years, after taking Synthroid for a year and not getting better. Canadians are human too and they would not settle for anything less than the best for themselves and they have plenty of Armour. If your Doctor won’t cooperate find a new one. The best way to get back at the pharm. companies is through their wallets…so do not settle for the synthetic crap. SHOP CANADA! Sick of American politics and lobbyists.
Mary, I can’t take the synthetic stuff, it gives me heart palpitations like if I had horses in my chest. I get my thyroid meds at the compounding pharmacy and now after so many years I have finally found the natural porcin medication and I am finally starting to feel like myself again. We cannot continue to let the FDA line the pockets of the pharmacetical companies and dictate what type of medication a person can take or not.
I am having a hard time finding a doctor in Spokane, WA that knows what tests are really needed to detect a thyroid problem. Thanks to the book I just ordered “Stop the thyroid madness….”, I was able to ask the doctor to give me a T3 & T4 tests. Sure enough, the TSH showed a normal thyroid, but the doctor admitted the Free T3 & T4 shows I hav low thyroid function. Now she is sending me to an endocrinologist, but I’m afraid that they will not do everything necessary to treat my hypothyroidism. Does anyone know anyone in Spokane, WA that treats using natural thyroid medication?
Thank you for such thorough info regarding this issue.
I was lucky to get 2 months of armour 30 from my local target store. I never took this more than 5 days straight.
I would prefer this over synthroid after being very ill on only .25 synthroid.
I will get follow up blood work tomorrow. I know if my TSH rises above 4.0 agai (3.5 last month) I will have to intervene and take it again.
How dare that Dr. that has his own personal vendetta against something that has helped many people. It really has me believing that FDA approved drugs are only approved by lobbying.
My T4 increased with the synthroid but T3 was low side of the scale. The armour has made me feel better the first couple of days.It may have too much of a dose, I do not know, but I had discontinued it.
My Endo. said, I need not take anything at the moment when the Endo. One week before I was told I needed to take .75 synthroid with a 2.33 TSH.
Now you know why I feel the way I do about Dr’s.
Thank you again for such great info.
When I was 14 1/2 years ols in 1963, I noticed a lump the size of a golf ball in my neck. So I was taken to the doctor who advised my Grandma to arrange to have me taken to a hospital in Spokane, Washington where some radiology tests would be taken to see if I had enough thyroid in me.
Prior to that, however, my family doctor had said I had hyperthyroidism.
So Grandma and I went to the hospital where I was for a good-sized portion of the day. When the substitute doctor near my home town relayed the results, he told my grandparents that the tests showed that I was born WITHOUT thyroid, and that I would have to take it the rest of my life.
So my REGULAR doctor had me be in the hospital in Moscow, Idaho to have thyroid surgery to have my goiter removed. Then I was started being prescribed Armour Thyroid—1/2 grain and then 1 grain and so forth, a little at a time, until I gradually got all the way up to 5-grains. That strength was taken for 5 years.
Then I decided to go see my 1st doctor in the Spokane, Washington area. He seemed to think that 5 grains were a bit TOO MUCH. But I tried to assure him that the previous doctor didn’t start me out with that much at once. He gradually did that.
Nevertheless, that 1st Spokane doctor changed my thyroid dose from 5-grain to 3-grain, but not in a GRADUAL way. Then the 2nd Spokane doctor kept me on Armour till 3-26-2008. Altogether, I was taking Armour Thyroid for approximately 44 years(June 1964 thru March 26, 2008).
Then I decided to get a referral for an endocrinologist at an internal medicine office. Dr. Ken Cathcart doesn’t like the idea that those previous doctors messed around with my thyroid the way they did. Plus, he doesn’t agree with those radiologists back in 1964 that I was born WITHOUT thyroid. Aren’t there other congenital diseases? My birth mother was born with congenital heart failure and later had congestive heart failure on top of it at the time of her death.
Beginning 3-26-08: Levothyroxin 100 mcg.
Refilled 5-19-08: ” ” ”
Beginning 6-23-08: Levoxyl 100 mcg.
Refilled 7-23-09: : 112 mcg.
Refilled 9-25-09: : 125 mcg.
Just like the other comments I’ve read tonight, I agree that we need to SAVE the NATURAL thyroid. I know for a FACT, not an opinion, that the synthetic does NOT work for me.
It has created more bouts of depression; feelings of laziness; weird sleeping patterns; limited weight(between
200-205 lbs. at all times); a LONG-time bulging stomach due to my SLUGGISH METABOLISM; LOVE HANDLES on my stomach bulges that create sore hips and thighs and knees; poor condition for bicycle riding; and low back pain, to name a few.
So I need to find an EXCELLENT physician who is willing to work with a person wholeheartedly who has this disability, irregardless of her Medicaid insurance. God wants this doctor to provide TOP-quality care, unconditionally.
Connie (92)
I live in Spokane and would love to share notes about doctors etc. 714-7860. Call me.
Terry
Here we go again. This is my second year on Armour. Starting last month (Feb) my Doc, who also has his own compounding pharmacy, is out of Armour. I went on upwards of 30+ years undiagnosed. I feel BETTER than I have in 35 years taking Armour, dropped 45 pounds in the past year.
We all need to MAKE NOISE.. call congress EMAIL the President, locals, whoever you can. THIS CANNOT STAND.
a petition to Obama is the answer (maybe someone said this already??)….
anybody know how to get a petition started and how to get it into the White House?? Obama will squash these overinflated petty bugs like they deserve.
plus, what about writing your Senators and Congresspersons??? maybe one or more of them take Armour Thyroid or the other naturals..(.wouldnt that shake things up a bit???)
And, for God’s sake, send it to EVERYBODY you know, ill OR well. Time is running out!
Also watch: “Food Inc.” Ask your library to stock it. or buy it.
And “Earthlings”. Free Online. Just Google it.
And “The Story of Stuff”. You can watch it online but it breaks up first time, so wait – with sound off and replay – with sound on.
Not all related to Thyroidism and yet they are in a very important way…
FDA is just holding companies hostage for a 1.5M randsom. That’s right, drug companies pay the FDA directly and if they don’t they are forced to stop selling medicines that have worked for Americans for 100+ yrs…. the GOV is greedy … and the ppl of America are suffering as a result of FDA greed. They’ve screwed w/ thyroid meds that my grandmother took, they’ve screwed w/ allergy meds like AllerRx that I used to take and can’t… I’ve had more infections this last year thanks to FDA greed. Thank you FDA! Thank you US Gov for being so greedy these last 2 yrs and screwing w/ the quality of my life.
But you keep spinning it like you’re doing me a favor, frankly you’re just making me sick.